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• By Rudy, October 2, 2014 @ 9:28 am

  Recommend that league members who refuse/do not want to serve on the Executive Committee be required to “buy” themselves out of the voting process by paying $20.00. Exception to the rule are members that have already severed within the past 3 years, serves as Outing Coordinator, or Handicap/Weekly Outing Keeper.
• By Ron Williams, October 2, 2014 @ 9:59 am

  I was going to suggest that we either increase the dues to $20, or charge $10 for dues and $10 to participate in the EOS tournament (includes cookout afterwards). However, if Rudy’s suggestion for the “buy out” passes, I suspect we will have more than enough $$$ to put on a nice cookout and present upgraded prizes. This year’s membership took in $280 and we had 2 guests ($20). Food costs was $230. The beans and a third of the beer was donated. While no one should expect larger prizes, more prizes would be nice (2 COPs and 2 LDs per round would be nice).
• By Doug, October 2, 2014 @ 10:14 am

  Can the last 3 years of committee members be posted so those of us know if we are able to decline without cost?
• By sscngolf, October 2, 2014 @ 10:47 am

  2014 Derek, Bill, and Ron
  2013 Derek, Doug, and Rudy
  2012 Bill, Pat B, and Steve
• By Derek, October 27, 2014 @ 8:08 am

  Completly agree with Ron. I think $20 is a great idea!!!
• By Mike F, October 29, 2014 @ 7:50 am

  I think league dues should be $10 and does not increase league championship. A separate league championship fee of $10 or an appropriate rate should be charged. The $10 league fee could be used to expand the season long prizes, and used to maintain the league winners plaque if desired. I personally find the plague meaningless, and would vote to eliminate it. We are more a retired social league. If we all still worked at SPAWAR and the plaque was hung in a hallway like it was many years ago! that would be different. It has little value collecting dust in someone’s garage.
• By Ron Williams, November 8, 2014 @ 12:47 pm

  If I’m reading Mike F correctly, his suggestion is to continue the $10 league dues and then assess a charge of $10 (or, whatever the league determines) to compete in the End-of-Season Championship. I would vote favorably on this proposal.
• By Rob Fey, January 7, 2015 @ 8:37 am

  I know this is long but after reading the other comments I figure it is appropriate.
  League Dues – I think splitting the difference between the two and combining them (League Dues/EOS Champ) is acceptable and just call it League Dues @ $15.00. Based on the figures above this should be enough to cover food and maybe extra awards at the EOS Rounds.

  Committee Members – I am in agreement that everyone who is a paying league member should participate and if you feel that strongly that you do not want to then a “non-participant fee” of $10.00 is fair. Some people just cannot find it in their schedule to commit regardless on how little time it may take and I understand that. I also think the term should be “one year on and one year off”, with the number of members you should only serve once every two or three years.

  League Plaque – Listening to the grumbling it appears that it really does not mean much anymore. I won it by just plain “Golf God” luck and beating out Doug H. & Mike W. and no one came to my house to admire it, so do we really want to put money into it? What I would like to see are more pictures on the site. I think reflecting on the good friends and good times mean so much more then the plaque.

  Rules Change – After a season of change I think for the speed of play we need to rethink two rules changes.
  (1) Drop Zone Rule on a Par-3, if no indication of a Drop Zone is apparent I think we need to go back to dropping at the Ladies Tee’s. If we get down to the green and it there is a drop zone then play your ball from there and the “Lady Drop” is null and void and you carry on as appropriate. Just something to look at.
  (2) OB Rule, going all the way out to your ball to find it 3″ OB and returning to the tee box is another one I think we need to look at again.

  Have a nice day!
• By Derek, January 27, 2015 @ 9:17 am

  I would vote to increase the league fee to $20.00 It is not to much to ask for when all you have to do is show up and play. Your tee times is made for you, your handicap is computed for you, and a website maintained to track all your progress and rounds. Then for the EOS tournament, we don’t have to worry about collecting money, hell we don’t even usually know who all is playing until the morning of the tournament. Keep guest for tournament at $10. No where else can you get all this plus hotdogs, burgers, beer, and camaraderie for $20!
• By Ron Williams, January 27, 2015 @ 12:47 pm

  I agree with Derek on the dues/tournament. Increase dues to $20 – No additional entry fee for tournament. Also – I’m disappointed that more members don’t find the need to serve on the committee. As I mentioned before, I think part of this is because a lot of potential committee members are never nominated and therefore are never up for the election. And, I think “penalizing” members for not serving will only run valued members away. I suggest the membership be listed A to Z by first name. First 3 serve a year. Next year – the next 3. New members are listed at the end so that they will have plenty of time to learn the ways of the league before their time comes. I don’t care for using the “ladies” tees as a drop area on par-3’s.
• By Derek, January 29, 2015 @ 7:55 am

  It is funny to me that everyone has all these great ideas and criticism throughout the year about “we should change this” or “I don’t like this rule”, but when it comes down to asking for rule change submissions we get crickets. So I guess we should not hear any bitching what so ever from anyone who has not present a rule change!
• By Doug, January 29, 2015 @ 4:22 pm

  I agree with Derek and Ron on the $20 league fee. I don’t know how long the dues have been just 10 bucks, but everything except gas recently has gone up so perhaps it’s time.

  I am oppose going back to the ladies tee rule. I didn’t know that Rob had the trophy prominently displayed or I may have ask to swing by. I have the trophy currently in a box in my laundry room if anyone wants to come see it.

  I don’t mind those that do not wish to be on the committee but agree that there should be a price to be protected from being elected.
• By Robert Coppock, January 30, 2015 @ 11:41 am

  I agree on the dues being raised to $20, but no additional entry fee for the tournament.
  I agree with Rudy on league members who refuse to serve on the committee.
  Every course should have a drop area for par 3’s over water, but some do not. I suggest the league makes it’s own drop area for the courses that do not, say 30 yards from the pin.
• By Steve, June 24, 2015 @ 9:34 pm

  We’ve discussed the problem with a ball coming to rest in a sand trap where a washout has occurred due to heavy rains. Turns out there is a decision addressing this situation (and others). (Decision 33-2a/3)

  The decision says that the ‘committee’ can rule such conditions as GUR and allowing relief.

  I propose the current committee examine the decision and determine if it shouldn’t declare such conditions GUR for purposes of league play. Likewise the committee might consider if the decision might apply to other situations. The decision seems to indicate it does.

  Bill remembers watching a pro tournament where relief consisted of ‘placing the ball in the trap rather than dropping it.
• By DEREK, June 25, 2015 @ 7:51 am

  Steve,

  I will get with the other committee members and discuss.
• By Ron Williams, June 25, 2015 @ 8:06 am

  We had that situation yesterday as well. One of group’s ball came to rest in the trap (sand washed away by previous night’s rain). Our decision was that the area was GUR and we allowed the player to move his ball. Can’t remember if he placed it or dropped it, but the ruts in the trap were obviously not intended to be a part of the course. Once again, we are NOT playing on championship courses that are always in pristine condition. Seems like agreed upon common sense is in order.
• By Pat B, June 25, 2015 @ 8:41 am

  Yea – common sense prevails.
• By Ron Williams, August 6, 2015 @ 7:55 am

  I heard some disturbing news last night. Apparently, long-time member, Dick Werkmeister, (who has been battling a number of ailments) suggested that he could return to league play, but only for nine holes. Reportedly, he was told that it would “screw up” the wagering format. I hope this is wrong and whatever whoever said was misinterpreted. I can’t imagine ANY member discouraging ANY member of to play. I would like to see an out pour of support for Dick to return to league play in whatever capacity he deems possible.
• By Derek, August 17, 2015 @ 12:57 pm

  That is bull, who cares about the bets….he can play anytime with us he wants!
• By Pat B., September 8, 2015 @ 2:49 pm

  Absolutely!!! Dick, we would love to see you back on the links with us. So would the area’s greens-keeper’s – there are entirely too many lost balls that need to be found…Pat B.
• By Larry, September 15, 2015 @ 2:35 pm

  Dick, Come on back, you’ve been missed.
  And, on another note, I will no longer be participating in the betting, front/back/overall and cuts. As long as we continue to allow cheating without suspending cheaters membership, I will not participate in giving money to him.
• By Ron Williams, September 15, 2015 @ 6:17 pm

  I agree in a similar way. I see no reason why I should not continue to make my $4 donation to the participating members and guests – with the the stipulation that if the known cheater is among us, I will forego the betting. If you know who he is, keep an eye on him – and let know that you’re keeping an eye on him. It’s hard to understand why a person would lend himself to this.
• By Doug, September 15, 2015 @ 6:19 pm

  Is someone going to say something to whomever Larry is referring too? Thinking maybe the email to everyone did not do the desired effect.
• By Derek, September 16, 2015 @ 7:33 am

  Let’s quit with the knee jerk reactions. Someone saw a problem, we put out an email addressing the problem, let’s see if it works. We have not had a round since the problem was sent out to the league, so let’s see if it will straighten itself out. This is not the first time, and I am sure it won’t be the last.
• By Clark, September 16, 2015 @ 9:35 am

  Weould love to see Dick back on the course. Lost golf balls are strangling local ponds and lakes.

  As for any cheating going on, I’m pretty sure all you b@#$#@#s have been stealing my money for years (just kidding). Derek’s right (oddly enough), just relax and the problem will resolve itself. It’s not like you’re living off your golf winnings.
• By Rob Fey, September 16, 2015 @ 1:04 pm

  I have not played in a couple of weeks and I thought we had this type of play under control. If you cannot play an honest game of golf with an honest bunch of hackers then don’t play. In the past I have seen: lost balls miraculously found in the fair way, balls marked in front, side, back and tossed, a pick up for identification and placed so gently back altering the lie and some others. You guys know who you are and most of us do as well. I am not that good to be winning much and only if my team plays well. I certainly do not carry anyone through too often. The 7 bucks is not going to break the bank or pay off the mortgage but fair is fair. Altering you ball position, admitting that it is lost, and trying to be sneaking just doesn’t work so stop embarrassing yourself and play like a real man, admit defeat against the golf gods and play with integrity. I have called two people out on this in the past and you know I will do it again if I see it. This is supposed to be for fun and camaraderie.
  Definition: Camaraderie is a spirit of good friendship and loyalty among members of a group.

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